The best way to dismantle Scientology?

Rathbun's follower recently complained that in order to bring down David Miscavige, it is useless to piss off Scientologists by bringing up OT III data for example. We have to talk to Scientologists at their level of reality, talking about the crimes and abuses of DM specifically. Though he knows that many "Anonymous" are more interested in bringing down the "Church" rather than just using DM as a scape goat.

Being a Scientologists, obviously he missed a lot of facts that others cannot escape if they are connected to the Internet.

Before day one of the worldwide, on the street protests, everybody agrees that we should not attack the religion itself, but to let everybody knows what is the CoS through the victims and the crimes committed. Protesters include one happy family of

• non-Scientolgists who think that Scientology is a scam
• ex-Scientolgists who think the same
• and ex-Scientologists who still believe in Scientology, but wanted to bring down the CoS so they will not again be prosecuted by it - the Free Zoners

As time went on, fast approaching two years, the principles remain the same, that the aim is not to eliminate Scientology the religion. But the Free Zoners aren't that effective, in contribution, in numbers, and in the determination to bring down the whole Church. And in the heat of battle, courtesy are sometimes forgotten, so attacks on LRH and Scientology that made some ex-scientologists uncomfortable are unavoidable. Also, on a small protest sign, how can you explain all that to the public? So words like cult, scam, are used without reservation. It's free to express one's opinion after all.

Who thinks that Anonymous are here to save those who are firm believers of the church? Honestly it's a waste of time and very difficult if you are never a Scientologist. The first aim is to let the public know what is CoS to stop their expansion in the expense of the general public. Money making schemes like WISE, Narconon and Criminon are not working any more. If you believe the OT VIII's words, the church is desperate for donations because there are few new publics and Scientologists take fewer courses.

To make a Scientologist doubt about DM, the Church or LRH, it's just too difficult. It can be done because we know a lot more about Scientology than many high level Scientologists. For example, becoming a Clear means that you find out that you made up your past lifes, and OT VIII means that you find out that everything is made up, or something like that. But to talk to and convince a Scientologist means that you have to use their language, and their alien philosophy - in words of a Scientologist, their level of reality. It can be done but I doubt if one can carry on tediously for like two years. The effect will be minimal because you may be able to save a Scientologist or two. It's much more effective to turn up at the Orgs every month, every week, so the public and staff start to doubt what Anonymous are doing with so much conviction, so OT, and why the Orgs fail to confront and shatter suppression any more.

I welcome Rathbun's Independents, probably more ambitious that the Free Zoners. This is exactly what we are hoping for, someone to bring down CoS from the inside. Old critics are waiting for Rathbun and Rinder to speak out for years. This high profile challenge is good. If they don't believe in Scientology, it's better but perhaps less effective in bringing down CoS from the inside. We have enough OT's on the outside who thinks that Scientology is crap.

Do I worry about Rathbun? Not at all. Without professional writers, what they say and what they write are laughable, at least to the non-Scientologists. Rathbun is using LRH to attack DM, and of course DM will use LRH to counter attack if he can. For the first time, Scientologists have to "think", who is using LRH right, and who is telling the "truth" even at their level of reality. They cannot believer whatever the Church tell them to. Why would they believe in Rathbun? They have no choice but to doubt, even for LRH's words as used by both camps.

If Rathbun thinks that Anonymous is weak, that's a big mistake. The protesters numbers are down just because we have already set many records, and that we have already achieved many things that we set out to do. Imagine that Moxon has to run around the country to deal with AGP in LA, AO in Riverside, and now trying to get a single Anonymous in Las Vegas using make up charges. Not to mention that there are big lawsuits by BFG and some smaller ones. If Rathbun is successful it's because of Anonymous. If he spoke out two years ago it will be a ripple in the pond.

At most Rathbun will inherit what DM has now, and I'm sure he doesn't want the huge headache. The best scenerio will be that Scientologists split into two equal camps, constantly fighting each other.

Most Anonymous or not so Anonymous are more convinced than two years ago that the problem is with LRH. Any writers, academics, critical thinkers or scam artists can tell you that it's too easy to make up a theory, and the more you build on it the more it's believable. The only problem is whether the theory will stand up to review and criticism. LRH's only success is avoiding and eliminating criticism. It's a shame that he didn't live to deal with the arrival of the Internet. Or that he finds that life in a galaxy away is much more enjoyable without Anonymous?